he will go right at romney. this is going to be an entirely different debate. >> i think that's right. one of the other questions, peggy, will we see a different kind of moderation? this was a brand-new format where jim lehrer, he wanted to get out of the way and said he was effective in doing that. do you agree? >> i completely agree. i thought jim lehrer was absolutely great, and it was a relief. i didn't even know in advance that this agreement had been made that the way the moderator would moderate would be a little more laid back. this is what it was. jim lehrer is old school and a pro. he didn't think it was all about him. he didn't think it was about getting the camera on him. he didn't think it was about him being the anchor with the whip. you know what i mean? he would ask a question, and he would let these two guys either challenge each other or not, either lean back or lean forward, either take issue or not. he left it up to them, that was great because they are the ones running for president, not the